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Just look at how the girls dress. Usually they dress like nurses. If they have sexy short skirts then you know what to expect. For a good place near your hotel ask the concierge, doorman or front desk. Joel, Your topic is a scam and you are a scammer. Because you use a sensational title promising tale of prostitution to attract victims to your otherwise unsensational tale not sensational or seeking to provoke interest or excitement at the expense of accuracy.
We all love a stories from prostitution victims which is rare on TA forums, but sorely disappointed. Shanghai has a magical history, parts of that magic is cheat, lie and defraud, only a trivia trace of them remain, that magic is also part of the attraction of Shanghai. There is an old saying which is still used often these days: The origin was actually in San Francisco, my city with an equally colorful history which we are very proud of and celebrated nowadays; men were drugged in SF bars, when they woke up, they were on ships bound for Shanghai as forced sailors.
I am glad you actually had a great Shanghai trip, but your topic title is a scam, not a true reflection of your journey. Next time, try visiting Guangzhou , there is no scam and nobody try to sell you anything, it is quite boring in comparison. They are safe and legitimate. When visiting Shanghai , I have either foot or body massage almost daily at various places most are upscale looking.
I was never offered HE or other special service. That's not true in other cities though. I was reporting the exact phrase used by several people near People's Square. That's why it's in quotes. Tonight, on my way to and from dinner I was approached 24 times with similar offers I counted.
I think it's partly because I'm traveling alone. I'm just disappointed that I need to walk around with my guard up. It makes it more difficult to meet locals. I don't like beginning every encounter wondering what someone wants from me. Well how in the heck do you think visitors to your neck of the woods in California feel? Constantly having to be on their guard against being mugged, or getting caught up in a drive-by shooting, or other violence.
The only difference between locations is what one is guarding against. Be thankful that in Shanghai , the main threat is to your wallet and your time, and generally accomplished with your own wiilling participation. And learn the beauty of the word "No" in any language, English will get the point across in Shanghai as well as Chinese.
I'm sure you use it at home to parry unwanted intrusions and Shanghai shouldn't be any different. I feel physically safer in Shanghai than many places in California. If you had a problem with experiences in the US I'm sure they are valid.
Post them in the proper forum rather than trying to discount and censor my feelings and experiences. This is the Shanghai Forum, after all. And yes, this is the Shanghai forum and you were the one that fired the Poor Me salvo. You don't get to dictate the responses of others here Face it, you came over to China with some sort of silly preconceived notion about how the place and the people are the old "meeting the locals" schtick , and your illusions are in the process of being shattered.
Which you're now complaining about here. You're hardly the first westerner to get flummoxed by this so forgive the rest of us for our weary snickers. You are however, unique in your choice of Thread Line to start off your tale.
At least you managed to avoid the clutches of the scammers before your cash was lightened, so this hasn't all been bad. Just say no to anybody that comes up to you wanting something. Stony stare, walk off, whatever it takes. No Chinese coming up to you and speaking English in a heavily-touristed location is up to any good. You'll have to change venues and situations if you want to meet the "good locals. As for blaming the poster, no I would not do that.
Except, if you had read any of my posts about where to stay, you would find the prominent warning that East Nanjing Road and People's Square are filled with touts, scammers and pimps, and further it is "touristaville," or in other words, a tourist trap. Anyone seeking to avoid these touts, scammers and pimps should stay on the Bund itself, in Lujiazui Pudong or in areas of the former French Concession.
These areas have lots to offer, although each area appeals to different tastes, and generally are free from the gnats and fleas so to speak of Peoples Square and East Nanjing Road. I just don't appreciate people constantly invading my space on the sidewalk or shouting at me, so I heartily agree with you Joe that if you are exposed daily to these touts and pimps it gets on your nerves and leaves a lasting bad impression. All of your saved places can be found here in My Trips.
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